Muttr » I am out of school and would like to say I am celebrating CHRISTM ...

I'm with you. I say Merry Christmas and I say it louder when somebody cluck "Happy Holidays" at me. But it wasn't the jews and muslims that started this(at least it wasn't the jews). It was atheists. They're the loudest, most obnoxious group of religious fanatics you'll ever have the misfortune of meeting. And not all atheists are like that, but enough of them are that you can reasonably assume what a particular atheist will be like before you meet them.

#1 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 10:00:40am Comment

Ikr? I don't give a crap about what religion you are. I will say Merry *Christ*mas. Not Happy Holidays. Geeze. I hate how controversial this world has gotten. No one believes in God anymore because they rely on sight, not faith.

#2 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 12:47:35pm Comment

Any retard that Yells "Merry Christmas" at me I just assume to be an ill-bred, bible-thumping redneck. Christians are more annoying with every passing year, yet constantly whine they are "victims".

#3 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 01:07:16pm Comment

Oh yes, here I am ;)

Christmas is actually stolen from a Roman Paganism holiday called Saturnalia. They would bring the slaves in and give them gifts, have big feasts, and slaughter some bulls to sacrifice.
You people really should do some f***ing research before you open your big idiot mouths. You are being extremely exclusive by saying this because SO many other religions celebrate holidays around this time, too.

This issue has nothing to do with other people being politically correct assholes, but ALL to do with you being bigots.

#4 Bones 12/23/10 @ 01:55:49pm Comment

Are you serious? People say Happy Holidays because Christians aren't the only ones celebrating holidays around this time. I don't usually agree with being politically correct, but in this instance I do. If you have the right to yell "Merry Christmas" then why do you feel a Jew doesn't have the right to yell just as loud "Happy Hanukkah"?

#5 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 02:02:52pm Comment

O_O Bones. You're so freaking retarded. *Christ*mas is celebrated because of the birth of Jesus Christ. Someone should shoot you or you should kill yourself.

#6 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 02:50:57pm Comment

Actually, I just stated a fact. Easily researched if you took the time to look, but you're probably just lazy. You're also really uneducated about your own holy book (which is usually the case about all of you people).

Nowhere in the Bible does it even hint and when Jesus was born. No date or even general time-frame is given. Nobody knows. What we do know from science is that a) from mapping the celestial calendar, we have been able to determine that Jesus could not have been born anywhere near December and b) It is unlikely a woman could give birth out in a manger in Bethlehem around the December months, without suffering or dying from hypothermia. It certainly wouldn't have been as placid as the nativity scenes would suggest. I suppose we are to assume that this is all part of the "miracle" thing.

Pagan holidays were specifically targeted by the Christians as a clever way to convert the people. It is hard to create a religious celebration or a holiday out of thin air and expect people of opposing faiths (especially ones that you are attempting to eliminate), to shift over. It is, however, much easier to conveniently "assimilate" a re-existing holiday and then just rewrite the context of it. It was actually the most effective method of converting the Pagans.

You can try to argue, because I know you know it makes your religion look a little less-than-desirable...but this is just plain and simply a fact. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Also...not very *Christ*like of you to wish death upon someone. You disgust me.

#7 Bones 12/23/10 @ 03:11:35pm Comment

to me, Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Christ my saviour. I once considered my self Christian and followed the faith, but with so many relegions and all these people trying to convert me to their religions i gave up. to me all religions lead to the one and only almighty God. christian i have so many things to say about them, not going to judge, jeohovas witness, catholics, prebysterian, i'm done. plainly read the bible its all there. simple god will show you what to do, and what reigin to follow. to all Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays.

#8

Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 03:48:45pm Comment

Bones, you just rehashed a conversation several members of my church and I had less than a week ago. I heard(but haven't seen the pertinent verses yet) that the Bible places the birth of Christ near harvest time, so you might include that in your next tirade. Most educated people are clearly aware of the facts surrounding Christmas' inception and why its date was chosen, but everybody who watches that Boondocks episode thinks they've found the silver bullet to destroy every Christian they come across.

#5, you assume too much. I like hearing "Happy Hanukkah" just fine.

Come to think of it, "Happy Holidays" never bothered me until businesses started making it policy to ignore why their sales seem to skyrocket at the same time every year.

#9 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 04:25:02pm Comment

Bones. I'm not lazy. I just believe in my own stuff while you believe in nothing. I feel sorry for you. And why in the world would the word "Christ" be in Christmas if it wasn't set aside of Jesus Christ's birthday? Gosh. You are retarded. I'm surprised you didn't add that it had to have been impossible because Mary was a virgin :P And yes. It was/is a miracle. God helped them get through it because he is almighty. He helped them stay alive. And so what if maybe it wasn't exactly Dec 25 when Jesus was born? I bet Easter makes you happy. Because that's when Jesus died. I bet you jump for glee because someone made his life short. :P Freaking stupid atheists. I feel sorry for you guys. And you don't know everything. Who died and made you the king of anything? You can't say any of this stuff for 100%. Neither can I but I have faith in things unlike some people. So what's the purpose of staying on this Earth if when we die, we just die. that's dumb and boring. You can be in hell while I'm in heaven. That's fine with me. Just know that you'll never change my mind. God created the entire universe and he sent Jesus Christ down to die for our sins so that we can go to heaven if we place our faith and trust in him.

#10 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 04:28:52pm Comment

#9, I'm not assuming. My point is that if you have the right to say Merry Christmas, and someone else has the right to say Happy Hanukkah, then when talking to someone you don't know personally, why not use the umbrella term "Happy Holidays". What is so threatening about that?

#11 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 04:55:20pm Comment

#9, you're clearly not the type of Christian I have a problem with, then. Also, I wasn't trying to destroy anyone.

I just find it irritating that people try to say that this season is ONLY for Christians to celebrate THEIR holiday. It is exclusive and rude. That is why people say "Happy Holidays." It isn't to piss Christians off or to degrade them, so stop singling yourselves out and acting like the whole world is against you.

#10, you obviously don't have the capacity to understand the point of what I posted, so you are not worth the time to argue with. Resorting to calling someone "retarded" because they don't agree with everything you say is pathetic and I will not stoop to that.

Enjoy your holiday season, I hope you are all able to spend some quality time with your families and relax before school/work starts back up. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

#12 Bones 12/23/10 @ 05:00:25pm Comment

It's called "Christ"mas because that's the Christian version of winter solstice. The point is that there are other holidays that predate Christmas which are also observed on the same day.

I personally say Merry Christmas because I have nothing against tradition. I'll reciprocate a happy hanukkah or happy holidays as well.

I know it's difficult to study and your body is changing and you have a lot of questions right now but try to vent those hormones into something more productive.

#13 suthezcian 12/23/10 @ 05:09:04pm Comment

i KNEW that bones and suthezcian would say something about this. f***ing tools.

#14 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 08:36:25pm Comment

When I was in school years ago, it was called Christmas vacation. Also, during the pledge, we would say, "Under God..." Now we call it Winter Vacation and can no longer say "Under God" in our pledge. What I am sick of is changing our culture because some people are upset with our old ways of life. I am not arguing for a Pro-Christian holiday, I am simply arguing for maintaining the integrity of our Nation! I dont think we should change ANYTHING about our country in that respect. It was a GREAT country then and it is a GREAT country now but I feel as though we are slowly losing our identity. We need one, and thats why I wish this country would declare an official religion and language.

#15 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 09:00:29pm Comment

#8: "to me all religions lead to the one and only almighty God"

UMMMM, what about polytheism? Hinduism, Buddhism, Neopaganism? These are contemporary and fairly prominent religions that should not be overlooked.

Happy Pancha Ganapati! And a belated Bodhi Day everyone!

#16 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 09:12:16pm Comment

#14- Ikr?

#17 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 09:26:55pm Comment

The virgin Maria got pregnant with Jesus around christmas times, it was not when he was born...

Without faith you have nothing ^^,
have faith in God... even if there is no signs of him being out there.. just try to keep faith in him xD

#18 Almo 12/23/10 @ 09:27:51pm Comment

Dear Bones,

I think you are supporting our cause and holding your own beautifully. I wish we were friends. :(

a non-creepy admirer

#19 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 09:30:55pm Comment

#13- I thought puberty stopped at 17.

#20 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 09:31:17pm Comment

#15 You obviously know nothing about our founding fathers and their views on religion. Please go look up the knights of columbus and how "under god" was added in the 60's.

#21 suthezcian 12/23/10 @ 09:43:50pm Comment

#14 and #17, I'm so flattered that we came to your mind. <3

#19, thank you! We can be friends :)

This is going to be very reminiscent of the other thread where we tell them, "Go do research and educate yourselves" while they say, "you're retarded!"

Hmm, who knew that suggesting to people to better themselves would make them so mad! Doesn't make sense to me, but whatever!

#22 Bones 12/23/10 @ 09:58:49pm Comment

#14 Try contributing to the conversation instead of droning on about things that have no bearing on the topic. Everyone knows you're going to start throwing out insults but we don't need to point it out.

#23 suthezcian 12/23/10 @ 09:59:40pm Comment

#22- idk bout everyone else but I'm mad because you think i'm dumb because i believe in something and i should educate myself to not believe in God. wtf?

#24 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 10:05:03pm Comment

Believing in god doesn't make you dumb. Saying evolution is false or that the earth is 6000 years old makes you dumb.

#25 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 11:02:54pm Comment

#25- No it doesn't. It's called having your own beliefs, thoughts, opinions, and faith.

#26 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 11:17:19pm Comment

If someone said "I belive the universe is made of chocolate"... does that make them dumb... or is that just their own beliifs? Please answer...

#27 Almo 12/23/10 @ 11:30:23pm Comment

#27 LOL good point!!

#28 Anonymous 12/23/10 @ 11:33:06pm Comment

I still want an answer...

#29 Almo 12/23/10 @ 11:39:25pm Comment

@Almo: That's basically my point. I can have a reasonable discussion with someone who simply believes in god and is a deist. But when someone with absolutely no knowledge of reality starts denying science because it doesn't coincide with their book then I have an issue. The age of the earth and evolution and big bang etc are as secure facts as anything. A book written by sheep herders a few thousand years ago can have nothing to say on these subjects plain and simple.

But more relevant to this post is the absolute ignorance of "Anonymous?" on the history of Christmas and Christianity, which is really fascinating to be honest.

#30 suthezcian 12/23/10 @ 11:49:08pm Comment

Well, I belive in the bible and stuff... but I have an open mind, I know it can be wrong... but it dosen't hurt me to have faith in something ^^,

I belive that the earth is somwhere between 8 and 15 thousand years old... if God created the earth in 6 days, and the 7th he rested (Somwhere in the bible (I think) it says something like that 1 day for god, might be a thousand years for us...or something like that...not really sure...and I don't really care...)

oh how I wish the universe was made of choocolate... no more starvation for anyone xD

#31 Almo 12/23/10 @ 11:54:58pm Comment

Suthezcian, you might want to rethink your argument. If an entire country declares CHRISTMAS a national holiday, we should have the right to say Merry Christmas and call this vacation Christmas vacation. In addition to that, at least 70% of Americans are some form of christianity. Now why would 230 million americans want christmas as a holiday and not say Merry Christmas? Thats absurd. This country has been celebrating christmas since our founding fathers. Had christianity not comprised such a high percent of America, we would most likely not declare christmas a holiday. But since this country DID declare it a holiday, I say, MERRY CHRISTMAS and a Happy New Year!!!!

#32 Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 12:22:00am Comment

#24, I am not saying to educate yourself to no longer believe in god. That is not at all what I mean. What I mean when I say to educate yourself is to learn basic historical and/or scientific facts. Many times you even need to learn things that are in your own Bible.

When I tell you guys to critically think, or to research and educate yourselves, it has nothing to do with educating yourselves away from god...just to gain knowledge. What is wrong with that?

#33 Bones 12/24/10 @ 12:49:34am Comment

#32 Maybe I wasn't clear in what I said. I was simply pointing out that December 25th isn't only a Christmas holiday and has roots in paganism and Norse mythology. Also that "under god" was added in the 60's. That was wrong and should be rectified.

Here's what I said about Christmas: "I personally say Merry Christmas because I have nothing against tradition. I'll reciprocate a happy hanukkah or happy holidays as well."

I don't follow the PC crowd. People have a right to say merry christmas, happy holidays, happy fesitvus etc. People are too sensitive and I'm with my conservative brothers and sisters on this issue.

#34 suthezcian 12/24/10 @ 01:07:00am Comment

#33- Yet every time I stick up for my faith you tell me I'm lazy and I'm un-educated.

#35 Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 01:30:31am Comment

@35 yea im beginning to wonder if bones and suthezcian is the same person or if they are dating. They always point out how ignorant someone is, passively insult someone, and seem to comment right after another.

#36 Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 01:41:28am Comment

Faith doesn't make you lazy and uneducated. Being lazy and not educating yourself does. You were ignorant of Noah's ark until I had to set you straight and still you couldn't admit your ignorance. If you don't know anything about your own bible or science then what do you have left? Ignorance.

And calling you lazy is a lot nicer than what has been said on your side. Little b**** in prison, stalking me online, saying such rude things that muttr staff had to remove your posts; just to name a few.

#37 suthezcian 12/24/10 @ 02:08:14am Comment

I really wish we could all get along though. :(

#38 suthezcian 12/24/10 @ 03:59:29am Comment

#36- omg ikr?
#37- I do educate myself. You don't know me at all. And I never said rude things to the extent that MuttrStaff had to remove them. If any comments were removed it was someone else. I don't stalk you online. I was on this muttr before you. No, I'm not in prison. . . O_o You guys still don't get it. Every time I say something about my religion you come up with some scientific theory or science words and say I'm un-educated. I have my own beliefs and you have yours. If you don't want any arguments then don't argue with me. Stop wasting your time on us Christians on here.
#38- HAHA! No.

#39 Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 11:56:42am Comment

#39 You are awesome!

#40 Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 01:32:27pm Comment

#39, no one was saying you were in prison. Suthezcian was called that by someone on your side in another thread.

To everyone else, I don't know how many times we have to explain ourselves. If you don't know something, and refuse to research it makes you lazy. When you don't know about anything we are talking about, you are uneducated on the issue. I should clarify that much; when I say uneducated, I don't mean generally, I mean about the issue.

Also, please use your brain. What would be the point of the same person posting under two different account names? I can assure you we are two different people. To say we are dating is a fair assumption, I suppose, but I assure you again that we are not. We have been friends for a long time and share a common interest in science. Of course, my explanations will just be turned into some sort of immature joke on your end, which is why I am not really bothering with the argument at hand. You all resort to ad hominem fallacies and it is getting pathetic and irritating.

Anyway, is everyone enjoying their holiday season? ;)

#41 Bones 12/24/10 @ 04:00:01pm Comment

that doesnt surprise me since both of you know e/o because you both insult people in the same manner. Also, heres a hint: USE YOUR BRAIN! I have different accounts in which I am different people. Why? Because its f***in fun to mess with people!

#42 Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 04:16:53pm Comment

#40- Thank you!
#41- I have done my research. I have thought of everything I believe in not being true, but I have faith. Leave me the freak alone. Good grief. Don't judge people on the first second. Ask questions and don't assume.
And yes! I am enjoying Christmas. Tonight we open presents!
#42- You're great.

For my fellow Christians, there's a song called "Christmas Must Be Something More" by Taylor Swift. If you haven't already, you should go listen to it :] I love it.

#43 Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 05:19:34pm Comment

#42, That's...productive? :-/

#44 Bones 12/24/10 @ 05:20:39pm Comment

some people have issues.
deal with it and get over it fast.
happy holidays, merry christmas happy pancha day happy hunnaka chunnaka, feliz navidad, happy everything and learn to enjoy life.

#45

Anonymous 12/24/10 @ 05:30:14pm Comment

Oh boy another attempt at the very rare and elusive most commented thread!
For those who have religion, It is quite simple, expand your mind and gather facts before you begin arguing, (otherwise you just sound un-educated and ignorant!)
Contrary to common misconception, Most atheists are decent people who want nothing more than to live free from religion. It really is quite pathetic how some people just immediately start to smash another person for what they believe, Especially those who are on the religion side...To you I say tisk tisk , Doesn't your bible or whatever religious literature you base your life on say "Judge not lest ye be judged"? May be different in other cultures but my point is do you really have to berate someone over their religious or non- religious preference? As a proud atheist I understand it's about being educated and if by chance someone would like to gain knowledge on the subject, Offer it to them, Do NOT force it upon them like so many religious folks do. Use YOUR mind , examine the evidence and facts that are out there, And make a decision for yourself. Or just believe in the faith system? Your call...

#46 Anonymous 12/25/10 @ 04:52:17pm Comment

Will you shut the hell up about being educated and knowing the evidence and facts...its getting old. Seriously. And tell your programmer homeboys to stfu too.

#47 Anonymous 12/25/10 @ 07:37:28pm Comment

Anyone who says or hints towards 'educate yourself and form an opinion based on evidence and facts/open your mind' or in a more 'uneducated' version; 'youre retarded,' has a lack of overall respect and understanding towards others.
First off, why insult peoples intelligence? Second off, why be rude and stubborn? Youre not going to get anyone on your side by speaking like that, regardless of how you word it. I cant stress the wording enough. People arent stupid. They know when you are insulting them.
These kinds of people need a serious wake up call to grow up and realize they are just as rude and arrogant as some of the people they make out to be. Hint, look up Virtues. Define them. Learn them and perhaps you will become a better advocate or in the least, a better person!

#48 Anonymous 12/25/10 @ 08:21:24pm Advice

Yeah facts and evidence are getting old haha. Stupid people talk like that.

#49

Anonymous 12/26/10 @ 09:59:07am Comment

#49 ikr!

#50 Anonymous 12/26/10 @ 11:06:18am Comment

It's not even the Christmas season anymore.... but MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!

#51 memyself&i 01/14/11 @ 10:30:58pm Comment

You're retarded! Hahaha

#52

Anonymous 03/02/11 @ 01:11:06am Comment

That's really thinking out of the box. Thknas!

#54

Anonymous 06/01/11 @ 03:11:14pm Comment

Jews and Muslims have never COMPLAINED about Christmas. What are you talking about and by the way if you REALLY want to get your facts straight you'll be disapointed to know that CHRISTMAS is actually NOT on 25th Dec. But then again all the politically correct assholes like people that don't get their facts straight so I can see why people like you are loved by this twisted government, because you're just like the politicians ....... twisted except the politicians know their twisted but you're just too stupid to even know !!!!!!

Have a HAPPY "PRETEND/WINTER/CHRISTMAS/SANTA/SNOWY" ......... VACATION

#55 Anonymous 12/04/11 @ 10:56:15am Comment

Actually Bones is right many Christians don't do their research and make careless judgements. the X in xmas is jesus's name in greek. Jesus was born in March cuz the sheep were outside and peole traveled with too much cold and such. Happy holidays its sometimes a chore to those whor just want to say Merry xmas, but WHERE in the bible does it say to celebrate Jesus's birth, cuz it barely says make a party for his death too. also christmas has pagan elements and other cultures involved. Happy Merry Hanakwasolmas. anyone who don't fit that happy holidays, just have a nice winter break.

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#57 Anonymous 07/18/12 @ 06:22:40pm Comment

#1, I am an athiest. I celebrate Christmas. I say Merry Christmas. I respect people of each religion, usually. Then some Christian comes and says that athiests are horrible people implying that we don't respect Christians. I know some don't but I do.

#58 corgiann 08/07/12 @ 07:25:14am Comment

Merry F'N Christmas!

I don't even care that it's January.

#59

Anonymous 01/28/13 @ 12:07:20am Comment

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#60 Anonymous 02/03/13 @ 10:22:53pm Comment

you Christian Dick

#61 Anonymous 02/11/13 @ 01:12:49pm Comment

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#62 Anonymous 02/11/13 @ 01:14:12pm Comment

my boyfriend is a muslim and i am an athiest.

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Anonymous 02/26/13 @ 08:52:32pm Comment

Just Vent | Just Venting

I am out of school and would like to say I am celebrating CHRISTMAS VACATION! Not WINTER VACATION! f*** YOU POLITICALLY CORRECT ASSHOLES! It was always christmas vacation long before some jews and muslims complained about it!

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